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	<title>Comments on: RIA Wars: Silverlight vs. Flex</title>
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		<link>http://blog.topholt.com/2007/12/05/ria-wars-silverlight-vs-flex/#comment-258</link>
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		<title>By: jchen</title>
		<link>http://blog.topholt.com/2007/12/05/ria-wars-silverlight-vs-flex/#comment-255</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that currently Flex/Flash is the best choice over Silverlight and JavaFX. There are more 96% of browser having installed Flash plug-in while Silverlight is still in Beta version. JavaFX is still a vaporware though. Comparing the performance, Flex is more run more smoothly than Silverlight, showing Flex is a more proven technology in RIA area. Flex Builder 3 is also an easy tool for average developers too.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that currently Flex/Flash is the best choice over Silverlight and JavaFX. There are more 96% of browser having installed Flash plug-in while Silverlight is still in Beta version. JavaFX is still a vaporware though. Comparing the performance, Flex is more run more smoothly than Silverlight, showing Flex is a more proven technology in RIA area. Flex Builder 3 is also an easy tool for average developers too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sleepwater</title>
		<link>http://blog.topholt.com/2007/12/05/ria-wars-silverlight-vs-flex/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Sleepwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flex is pretty cool, Silverlight is also pretty cool.  I currently work on multi million dollar applications in C#/ASP.NET/AJAX.  With the RIA world literally exploding on the web right now we are taking a look at Silverlight (2.0).  There are strong arguments to adopting it.  For ASP.NET software shops like the one I work for,  it is an easy choice. Building RIA applications using the tools you already have and knowledge you already know.   Combine that with a large developer base, and Silverlight will have success in the market, it's a fact.  But like it was stated earlier, this is not an end game. I expect to see both succeed.

Don't even compare Silverlight to Flash, they are not of the same target market, not of the same feather.  Flash is for watching Youtube videos, winning free iPods, or dancing aliens selling mortgage refinancing.  

Adobe makes many great products as we already know, and we can expect the competition to be healthy and beneficial.  With the emergence of Silverlight, there is real pressure (on both sides) to improve, enhance, and add to the technologies.  We developers stand to reap the rewards.

As for Microsoft being a follower, I take a different viewpoint.  Many ideas are only that...great ideas.  Often the implementation of the idea leaves much to be desired.  As the old saying goes..."build a better mousetrap..."  When talking about technologies that Microsoft "took" (and made better), there is something to think about.  When there is no competition, you don't have to run very hard, but when competition comes along and you fall by the wayside, it really shows what you were made of in the first place.  A second or third rate developer with no competition.  But, if anyone is bitter about Netscape going to the grave, you can actually still download it and use it (though no longer supported).  No guns to anyone's head that I am aware of.

I use many Adobe products daily, especially Photoshop for the graphics I use in Silverlight (I love the irony there), so I have loyalty to both companies.  Flex developers should be rejoicing as Flex is not going to go away and is only going to get better from the competition. 

I will end with this... all developers, Silverlight and Flex alike, you should do like me, get out the popcorn because this is going to get good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flex is pretty cool, Silverlight is also pretty cool.  I currently work on multi million dollar applications in C#/ASP.NET/AJAX.  With the RIA world literally exploding on the web right now we are taking a look at Silverlight (2.0).  There are strong arguments to adopting it.  For ASP.NET software shops like the one I work for,  it is an easy choice. Building RIA applications using the tools you already have and knowledge you already know.   Combine that with a large developer base, and Silverlight will have success in the market, it&#8217;s a fact.  But like it was stated earlier, this is not an end game. I expect to see both succeed.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even compare Silverlight to Flash, they are not of the same target market, not of the same feather.  Flash is for watching Youtube videos, winning free iPods, or dancing aliens selling mortgage refinancing.  </p>
<p>Adobe makes many great products as we already know, and we can expect the competition to be healthy and beneficial.  With the emergence of Silverlight, there is real pressure (on both sides) to improve, enhance, and add to the technologies.  We developers stand to reap the rewards.</p>
<p>As for Microsoft being a follower, I take a different viewpoint.  Many ideas are only that&#8230;great ideas.  Often the implementation of the idea leaves much to be desired.  As the old saying goes&#8230;&#8221;build a better mousetrap&#8230;&#8221;  When talking about technologies that Microsoft &#8220;took&#8221; (and made better), there is something to think about.  When there is no competition, you don&#8217;t have to run very hard, but when competition comes along and you fall by the wayside, it really shows what you were made of in the first place.  A second or third rate developer with no competition.  But, if anyone is bitter about Netscape going to the grave, you can actually still download it and use it (though no longer supported).  No guns to anyone&#8217;s head that I am aware of.</p>
<p>I use many Adobe products daily, especially Photoshop for the graphics I use in Silverlight (I love the irony there), so I have loyalty to both companies.  Flex developers should be rejoicing as Flex is not going to go away and is only going to get better from the competition. </p>
<p>I will end with this&#8230; all developers, Silverlight and Flex alike, you should do like me, get out the popcorn because this is going to get good!</p>
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		<title>By: 3Mushrooms</title>
		<link>http://blog.topholt.com/2007/12/05/ria-wars-silverlight-vs-flex/#comment-196</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think currently Flex has the upper hand, especially the fact that you can easily make them into AIR applications, but it would be interesting to see how far silver light makes it.   

Also though, ECMA Script is a dynamic scripting language, so it has some power, but MS is suppose to have the DLR for also making any dynamic language work in .NET, so being a .NET developer, it will be nice to see silverlight get up to par with flex, but right now since flash is installed on everyones machines, flex is ideal.

 RIA's are awesome, but they should not replace desktop apps.  while the internet will be available everywhere, what if one day it isnt?  or you do not have access, there goes all your applications :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think currently Flex has the upper hand, especially the fact that you can easily make them into AIR applications, but it would be interesting to see how far silver light makes it.   </p>
<p>Also though, ECMA Script is a dynamic scripting language, so it has some power, but MS is suppose to have the DLR for also making any dynamic language work in .NET, so being a .NET developer, it will be nice to see silverlight get up to par with flex, but right now since flash is installed on everyones machines, flex is ideal.</p>
<p> RIA&#8217;s are awesome, but they should not replace desktop apps.  while the internet will be available everywhere, what if one day it isnt?  or you do not have access, there goes all your applications <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Rexannela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rexannela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Adobe Flex 3 - What is it and why is it my new side project to join the other side projects? &#171; living for the weekend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adobe Flex 3 - What is it and why is it my new side project to join the other side projects? &#171; living for the weekend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] presentation gives best illustration why I think it&#8217;s important.  There&#8217;s also an article on RIA Wars about the difference between Flex and Silverlight (Microsoft&#8217;s offering in the RIA arena). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] presentation gives best illustration why I think it&#8217;s important.  There&#8217;s also an article on RIA Wars about the difference between Flex and Silverlight (Microsoft&#8217;s offering in the RIA arena). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SteveS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a business manager researching technologies that might advance my own business, I have one point of curiosity about this whole discussion: what is the business model that funds development of Flash/Flex product line vs. Silverlight? Is it funded exclusively by sales of development tool?

The question to me is: Can Adobe generate enough income from sales of development tools alone to keep Flash/Flex on top? Microsoft may view Silverlight as a key component to the long term survival of Windows and their continued OS dominance; do it, or the golden goose dies. With their war chest and revenue stream, how can Adobe compete long term, business-wise? 

Heck, sometimes I think MS could simply buy Adobe and put an end to the entire problem from their point of view, and generate a nice new revenue stream, too. If the Yahoo buyout dries up, I won't be surprised if MS goes after Adobe, too (with a market cap of 1/10th of MS's, and half of the value of the Yahoo buyout....its not a stretch to me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a business manager researching technologies that might advance my own business, I have one point of curiosity about this whole discussion: what is the business model that funds development of Flash/Flex product line vs. Silverlight? Is it funded exclusively by sales of development tool?</p>
<p>The question to me is: Can Adobe generate enough income from sales of development tools alone to keep Flash/Flex on top? Microsoft may view Silverlight as a key component to the long term survival of Windows and their continued OS dominance; do it, or the golden goose dies. With their war chest and revenue stream, how can Adobe compete long term, business-wise? </p>
<p>Heck, sometimes I think MS could simply buy Adobe and put an end to the entire problem from their point of view, and generate a nice new revenue stream, too. If the Yahoo buyout dries up, I won&#8217;t be surprised if MS goes after Adobe, too (with a market cap of 1/10th of MS&#8217;s, and half of the value of the Yahoo buyout&#8230;.its not a stretch to me).</p>
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		<title>By: Henry V. Mmepin</title>
		<link>http://blog.topholt.com/2007/12/05/ria-wars-silverlight-vs-flex/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry V. Mmepin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both products is really really cool.</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Hanson</title>
		<link>http://blog.topholt.com/2007/12/05/ria-wars-silverlight-vs-flex/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all keep saying Silverlight is only a Windows Update away. Then why are IE6 still used more than IE7. The statistics says our webserver are hit 42% IE6 users and 37% IE7 users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all keep saying Silverlight is only a Windows Update away. Then why are IE6 still used more than IE7. The statistics says our webserver are hit 42% IE6 users and 37% IE7 users.</p>
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